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Post by StarSwirl05 on Nov 18, 2015 8:08:20 GMT -5
It's a shame but unsurprising. Unfortunately, I think the older generations suffer from "Its too girly" syndrome where people don't even give it a shot and just simply think it's too girly for them.
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Post by bobdude on Nov 18, 2015 13:44:37 GMT -5
I've always thought it was telling that GI Joe and Transformers got 22 consistent minute episodes compared to the much shorter/fragmented run time of Pony. Theres an essay in there somewhere...
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Post by StarSwirl05 on Nov 18, 2015 14:22:37 GMT -5
I wouldn't know the feeling because I've never gotten into either of those.
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yoshi89
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Post by yoshi89 on Nov 20, 2015 23:47:17 GMT -5
A lot of cartoons are different in that sense. Stretching a plot into 11 or 22 minutes is a part of what makes them unique. In the original My Little Pony's case, a lot of their episodes were spread over into serials, sometimes stretching over ten episodes.
I think Friendship is Magic toyed with the idea of both 11-minute and 22-minute episodes before settling on the latter. "The Ticket Master" easily could have worked as quarter-hour short.
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Post by acehoneycomb on Nov 23, 2015 3:11:52 GMT -5
I agree that 'The Ticket Master' could have functioned as an 11-minute episode. However, there are some episodes, such as keep Calm and Flutter On and Magical Mystery Cure that were already rushed as 22-minute episodes. G1 had 11-minute episodes, as did Tales, but most episode were divided into 'parts', for example, the Return of Tambelon appears to be a 40-minute episode, yet it's actually 4 10-minute episode edited together to form a story arc.
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Post by StarSwirl05 on Nov 23, 2015 7:18:59 GMT -5
Speaking of Ticket Master, the moral was completely thrown out in that episode.
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Post by acehoneycomb on Nov 24, 2015 3:08:55 GMT -5
I agree that the moral wasn't handled in the best way, but it didn't ruin the episode for me (although the episode itself was mediocre, personally).
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Post by StarSwirl05 on Nov 24, 2015 7:49:57 GMT -5
TBH, most episodes of FiM I found to be "Meh".
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Post by yoshi89 on Nov 25, 2015 22:30:39 GMT -5
I agree that the moral wasn't handled in the best way, but it didn't ruin the episode for me (although the episode itself was mediocre, personally). Compared to the episode of "Tales" it was based on, it wasn't. Celestia giving the rest of the Mane Six in "The Ticket Master" defeated the purpose of the Aesop. The ending to "And the Winner Is" was at least more realistic. |
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Post by StarSwirl05 on Nov 26, 2015 7:35:45 GMT -5
I agree that the moral wasn't handled in the best way, but it didn't ruin the episode for me (although the episode itself was mediocre, personally). Compared to the episode of "Tales" it was based on, it wasn't. Celestia giving the rest of the Mane Six in "The Ticket Master" defeated the purpose of the Aesop. The ending to "And the Winner Is" was at least more realistic. That's exactly the comparison I gave for my episode review on YouTube. |
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Post by acehoneycomb on Apr 3, 2016 15:27:12 GMT -5
Having thought about it, the broken Aesop featured in 'The Ticket Master' was really just a cheap ploy to get the Mane Six to the Gala so Hasbro could market merchandise based on the event and the first season of FiM could have a suitable story arc/conclusion. Tales wasn't heaped with this responsibility (there was no merchandise produced by Hasbro involving the Cleveland Bays in any form, and the show was more episodic in nature than FiM) so they were allowed to present a more realistic moral.
As for my opinions on 'And the Winner Is...' I'm pretty unsure as to how I should rate the episode. It's not the best in terms of quality, but I'm a sucker for the musical score (featuring one-off background music such as the rock guitar music heard during the scene in the ice cream shop and the score heard during the scene involving Clover and Sweetheart on the seesaw). 'The Ticket Master' featured a broken moral, some pretty bad dialogue, and moderately unlikeable characterizations for the Mane Six (excluding Twilight, obviously), but I do find the chase scene with Twilight and Spike enjoyable (mainly due to its cartoonish humor, something I feel that FiM has been sorely lacking in as of late).
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Post by StarSwirl05 on Apr 3, 2016 16:32:34 GMT -5
Well watching Season 6 of FiM hasn't been that great for me thus far as the first three episodes have certainly been predictable (no doubt partially due to some of the original crew leaving) and/or just lacking an interesting story.
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Post by acehoneycomb on Apr 17, 2016 1:44:28 GMT -5
We can chalk this predictability up to Josh Haber being the season's story editor. While he didn't essentially participate in the main writing process for all the new episodes so far, he DOES write the basic outlines for each episode. Considering predictability is one of his most crippling flaws, I'm personally not surprised how clichéd the new episodes have turned out to be. While I found season 5 disappointing, at least there were some standout episodes like Amending Fences and The Mane Attraction, whilst all the new episodes can be easily summed up in terms of quality as being functional, but greatly lacking in originality. Asides from 'Gift of the Maud Pie' (which I didn't watch because it sounded dull and because I'm not really a big fan of Maud) all the new episodes seem to sit on the same level of quality/enjoyment, that 'eh, it's okay' level.
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Post by StarSwirl05 on Apr 17, 2016 6:49:54 GMT -5
I found the 5th episode better than the previous but not enough to consider it a good episode in my book. No telling how these would've gone had we still had the original crew.
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Post by acehoneycomb on Apr 19, 2016 9:56:33 GMT -5
I was however annoyed by the Dragon Lord's CONSTANT repetition of 'big and strong'. Seriously, writers, could you not come up for a synonym to that phrase? It's not as irritating as Starlight Glimmer constantly referring to Sunburst as a 'big important wizard', but it still raises my ire. Otherwise, you are right, 'Gauntlet of Fire' was a minor improvement over the previous episodes, despite being the most clichéd and predictable episode of the entire show (even more so than the other recent episodes).
Although obviously M.A Larson and Amy Keating Rogers leaving and Meghan McCarthy leaving to work on the movie (which I pray will be good) was a big factor in the show's descent into predictability (although Jayson Thiessen ceasing involvement in the show to also work on the movie was also a problem) even the old crew weren't incapable of producing bad episodes. 'Tanks for the Memories' and 'Appleloosa's Most Wanted' were both bad episodes, yet both were written by members of the original writing staff (Cindy Morrow and Dave Polsky). Also, it's not as if 'The Super Speedy Cider Squeezy 6000' and 'A Friend in Deed' (asides from the Smile Song) were great episodes, despite being written by Larson and Rogers (McCarthy was unable to avoid this too, she had involvement in the lame and boring Power Ponies).
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