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Post by bobdude on Nov 18, 2014 0:08:30 GMT -5
Thought it might be fun we if had threads listing our headcanon's for the different ponies. Other users are more than welcome to start the other threads. I'll start with my headcanon, for some strange reason I see Sweetheart growing up and becoming a psychologist of all things. Between her natural empathy/listening skills for others and her remarkable maturity, the job just seems to fit her so very well in my mind's eye. Also have her having fantasies of being pregnant with Teddy's child, mostly based off of this pic derpibooru.org/23604?scope=scpe8f6921aa1411cf8277459022b2599004a7487b1f and have both her and Teddy (who mellows out with age and still rocks the hawk hairstyle) as being active participants in "The Lifestyle" (as in the lifestyle that a certain Twilight fanfic with the serial numbers filed off of a certian number of shades of a darkish color very inaccurately portray). Anyways, that's about everything I have on Sweetheart, anyone else?
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Post by Notes on Nov 18, 2014 20:19:20 GMT -5
Neat, a new thread! One for headcanons no less!
Alright, Sweetheart isn't my favorite character. But I definitely do have some ideas about her.
First off, her family has some Pony-French roots down the line. Her last name is "Sarriette," which is "savory" in French. They're really Ponylandian, not having any French customs around the house. However, like the others in the school, they learn French because of the number of ponies who speak French in the area.
Sweetheart is the youngest out of the 7 Pony Friends, with the Tale Trio only having Lancer except to the rule. I mean, she's mature, but she has moments in the show that are strongly reminiscent of Bubbles from the Powerpuff Girls. What the feeling entails is her friends being protective of her. Sweetheart doesn't really notice herself and thinks that everyone is just being nice. Part of the girls' aversion to Teddy is because they don't want Sweetheart to get hurt.
Sweetheart, evidently, has pink as her favorite color, though she also just loves orange, especially yellow orange colors. Her room has pink furniture as a general tendency.
Sweetheart and romance. OH... Sweetheart and romance. She already loves romance novels and stories of princes and princesses, we know that. But I think that's it's something she is borderline obsessed with in relation to her friends. If any of her friends show a sign of being attracted to someone, she'll be the first to pick up on it, and she will try and help her friends out with their little crushes. One of her favorite pairs is Patch and Bon Bon, mainly because of the fact that two friends is better than one. She picked up on it before they even realized what was going on. She is that good.
That's just a bit. I can't just list all my ideas about her in one post, after all! But in response to your ideas, Bob-dude... I have some similar ideas.
Sweetheart would definitely make a fine counselor, so I think that that would be her career choice. I definitely picture her becoming one.
Sweetheart and Teddy have an interesting dynamic indeed. One big part of it is Teddy being protective, thinking of Sweetheart something like a little sister, and Sweetheart developing the biggest crush on him. She fantasizes about it but never really asks, even if she heavily implies it. Teddy ends up horrified when he finds out.
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Post by bobdude on Nov 19, 2014 12:00:14 GMT -5
Sweetheart as Bubbles, never thought of that comparison before and yet it makes so much sense now that I do think about it. Neat.
Pony French, I am perfectly okay with this.
Savory, eh? *wiggles eyebrows*
Sweetheart being the youngest makes sense, seeing as how shes the only one with an established birthday age and given the vuage ten year old to pre teen age of the others.
Sweetheart and romance seem to go together like peenutbutter and jelly. She would get along well with Heart Throb and G4 Rarity in that regard. And yet ironically she's fallen for the 'bad boy' of the group. So you could so that Sweetheart was into shipping BEFORE it was cool?
Somehow I'd figure you'd find a way to tie in PatchBon at some point or another.
Funnily I have young adult Teddy acting as a sort of atoner with a dark and trouble past, lets just say that Juvie Hall and minor crimes were involved when he was a teen before Sweetheart managed to put her hooves down and get him on the straight and narrow (for which he'll always be grateful for). Also have him being annoyed with Shining Armor and Flash Sentry for their 'Nice Guy'ness. "Yeah, well Not all of us can be paragons of morality Mr. Fancy Pants Prince."
But that's getting into my Ted Canon.
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Post by Notes on Nov 19, 2014 18:56:55 GMT -5
Yeah, it's her excitement at some points that solidify that. When she says "Let's get it!" in Great Lemonade Stand Wars, she really sounds like her. And I didn't see it at first, either! They aren't even that similar... but it just makes sense! "T I have to come up with a REAL pun for a language one of these days. Pony French it is until then, though!
I figured, it alliterated, and it sounded good. I think that one writer (TALES HEADCANON, I WONDER WHO) had her with a French last name or such.
Sweetheart, according to some official concept sheets, actually IS the youngest. It does make a lot of sense, too, especially with the Bubbles analogy.
Romance and shipping came up, so naturally the best ship comes in, am I right?
The odd thing about it isn't the fact that the OTP comes up, though... it's the fact that it is grounded in the show. In Gribet, the girls are all having a picnic like they enjoy doing. Patch is possibly the leader, because she sets down the blanket, comments on its greatness, and then questions Clover's whereabouts. Anyway, Bon Bon wants to cut to the chase, so Sweetheart gives everyone their food, amongst which is all of the usual: extra-thick sandwiches, munchy-crunchy crisps and such. With a bit more excitement, she pulls out "Bon Bon's super-rich carrot cake" and gives Patch a meaningful look. Then rain comes down over everything.
Maybe I've gone way over the edge, but I think that the way it all played out gives me the credibility to not have the insanity flag waved over my head. Sweetheart definitely pushes her friends for romance with her love of it, especially in those darling little comics. If two of her friends liked each other, or if she thought they did, it'd be a recipe for whatever the writer wants: awkwardness, comedy, ship-it-like-FedEx moments... seriously, anything!
The romantic having a dreamy good-girl/bad-boy relationship makes a lot of sense, actually. Especially considering the fact that said bad-boy has a heart of gold and a teddy bear.
"Ted canon?" HOW DIDN'T I THINK OF THAT?
I agree that Teddy will be in and out of juvie, or jail, during his lifetime. I think he ends up getting in trouble for something he didn't do later in life, even if it isn't a felony. But Sweetheart would definitely straighten him out. Teddy not being happy with the nice guys is also perfect!
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Post by bobdude on Nov 19, 2014 20:16:59 GMT -5
Maggie Blue is really underrated as Sweetheart's VA.
Ironic that the youngest of the Tale Seven is a lot of the times the most mature of their age range.
I'll have to keep an eye out in future episodes then. Your comment on Derpibooru certainly made me look at the Best Dream song in a new light.
But insanity flags are the best, better than white ones at the least.
Ted Canon, still waiting for the patents on that one.
Yeah, Ace and Danny "Original Brony" Williams (turned Pegasus pony) would totally poke fun at stuff Shining Armor's voice or Big Mac's limited vocab.
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Post by Notes on Nov 19, 2014 20:27:15 GMT -5
People like mentioning Teddy and Eddy (from the goofy Ed show), and Ace and that insane guy from the anime, or on a not so distant planet, how they think Bon Bon's voice is whiny. Maggie Blue and everyone really ARE underrated.
Agreed. She even beats Starlight, who is the canonically the oldest. Imagine that.
Turn on the "explicit" filter, and you'll see more Tales pornography than you ever knew or hoped existed. A lot of it features Bon Bon due to some prompt somewhere, and the same goes for Patch. But there was one of a few with both of them that offers a DIFFERENT view on that...
Gather all! Wave the white flag of honor!
Agreed. Teddy seems more likely to make fun of them than Ace, though.
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Post by Kat on Nov 20, 2014 11:57:23 GMT -5
I always had my Sweetheart going to med school but going the pediatrician route, since she adores kids and babies. She is definitely super into romance, and I'm thinking at first she'd be into the whole "saving virginity for marriage" thing, possibly due to parental influence. I usually have her parents being rather religious, and my headcanon for them is that they both "saved themselves" until they were married (but they got married right out of high school, so not really that long to wait). They're both really romantic, so she's had this paragon of virtuous romance to look up to all her life, which makes her expectations really high.
I used to headcanon Teddy as getting into eventual trouble with the law, but that's changed for me lately. He definitely hangs out with guys who are a little shady, but he himself doesn't get into quite as much trouble, though he's not a really good guy by any stretch. When he hits high school he definitely becomes more of a "follower" than the loner he is growing up, and the guys he follows are the ones doing the troublesome things. But he's still on really good terms with Sweetheart, and is always the first person to try and protect her if anyone gives her trouble. Likewise she's the first person to stand up for him when others talk about him, and she always gives him her utmost support about everything he tries to do.
I don't see them hooking up until later on in life, say possibly post-college age, and after both of them have gone through terrible relationships. They haven't seen each other in five years - Sweetheart just got out of a nasty divorce from a nightmare guy (basically turned super controlling and tried to get her to quit med school) and Teddy finally dropped his super toxic girlfriend, and they meet up to have dinner one night to catch up and complain and at the end of the night they're all "Oh nuts, you know what you're actually kind of exactly the sort of person I want to have a relationship with..." but neither of them bother to come out and say it at that moment. So there's a long and drawn out process of flirting and hanging out and eventually someone (maybe Ace or Melody when they're in town visiting friends during breaks in their super busy, celebrity lives) sees them together and is all "Why are you two not married with a kid yet? Get on that!" At which point they do exactly that. Sweetheart goes on to open her own pediatric practice, while Teddy opens a skateboard shop (and he's the one who usually brings their kid to work with him).
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Post by bobdude on Nov 20, 2014 13:06:50 GMT -5
Sweetheart seems like the type of girl who would save herself for marriage regardless of any sort of religion, but either way could work.
Also, as much as an emotional sap as I am, I have to admit that I like your idea of Sweetheart and Teddy going through two really bad relationships before ending up with one another, fits in with the 'realism' of the Talseverse I think.
And somehow Teddy knowing how to ride a skateboard/opening up a shop based on them makes an odd amount of sense. Bart Simpson, eat your shorts.
Funnily enough, I could see either my idea or your idea for Sweetheart future job working Kat. If only there was a way to combine the two...
Wonder if the Talesverse has a magic mirror pool of its own? ;D
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Post by Kat on Nov 20, 2014 14:29:30 GMT -5
She could be a child psychologist! Which might actually work even better now that I think about it, given her history with Teddy and knowing how much value a good listener can be to a troubled child. She knows that she helped him a lot, and had he not had her, things could have gone much worse for him. So of course she'll want to help other troubled kids. I totally adore Teddy being an avid skateboarder! I've pretty much had him that way for seven or eight years, now. Plus when I think of him having a job, I can't picture him doing a normal office job. Now that I think about it, if not the skateboard shop I could see him either being a bartender or a tattoo artist. Last resort would be working construction. But I like the idea of the shop because that way he could also be in a position to be "available" to troubled kids in need of some guidance. I can just picture a kid coming in wanting a board, who reminds Teddy exactly of his own younger self, and he goes out of his way to do something nice for the kid (like sell him a much better board for way cheaper, upgrade his wheels for free). He would never admit that he's doing it, though, but he'll always make a point of mentioning this kid to SH any time he comes into the shop, to the point where she starts asking him about the kid and how he's doing. She totally knows he's developed a soft spot for him, but Teddy himself is still oblivious to much he cares about this strange little kid.
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Post by bobdude on Nov 20, 2014 16:15:30 GMT -5
You know I think you're on to something with that child psychologist, although Psychiatrist might work slightly better if this website is to be believed. education-portal.com/articles/Psychologist_vs_Psychiatrist_Whats_the_Difference.htmlAnd you just know Sweetheart would raise some eyebrows at some of the Mane Six's past antics. SH: Tell me Miss Shy, Have you thought of changing your name to something that doesn't call to mind your introvert personality or weak flying abilities?" Could also see her correcting ponies when they call her either a Psychiatrist/ psychologist as oppose to either a Psychiatrist or psychologist. Something along the lines of Bones McCoy's famous catch phrase or the like. Somehow I get the feeling that if Tales had continued a skateboard episode (along with an episode dedicated to the wonders of virtual reality, bout 20 years early to THAT party) would have been enventiable. Extremeness would hopefully have been optional. Why am I now seeing this hypothetical kid as an orphan with SH and Ted eventually adopting him as their own? Because that's just heart meltingly cheesy enough to work as far as I'm concerned. ^^
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Post by Notes on Nov 20, 2014 19:41:48 GMT -5
Headcanon city! Woo!
Alright, Sweetheart and romance is THE QUESTION to ask this time around. My personal opinion is that she would be very, very interested in all shades of romance, as she reads everything from Twilight: Breaking Pony to Princess and the Pea-Pony by Cool School to Fifty Shades of Pony-Colors (she has a naughty streak). She would be a bit distant from it and long for it between the fact that Teddy thinks of her as a friend and subconsciously as a sister, and that her parents are especially protective of their daughter. Really, she would self-insert herself into some of the stories, mainly subconsciously, and just enjoy it very much.
She can't go in a relationship with someone she doesn't like, and she likes just Teddy but can't go with him. So I think Sweetheart lives her fantasies through her friends and their various love lives. For example, when the winter holidays come around, Sweetheart couldn't put mistletoe on her or anywhere near her house because it would be toxic to Springfield. She would either egg someone on to put it up everywhere, or just try to leave it places where some unlucky ponies would get stuck under it and she could peacefully watch them.
Sweetheart and Teddy - in my verse, they're at a stalemate as far as where their dynamic goes. They are clearly very good friends, considering the "pals" handshake they had at the end of Shop Talk. Teddy thinks of her as someone to protect, a friend, a confidante and even like a little sister. However, Sweetheart in turn develops a massive crush on Teddy, which she tries to show him through vague hints and flirting, though Teddy just wouldn't get it. If they got together, then it'd have to be later in life. I really have a tough time believing that Sweetheart could be fully fulfilled without a romantic partner, and I can not imagine her marrying anyone aside from Teddy because she is such a sister character.
But the thought of them raising a little orphan is just TOO CUTE! The thought of Teddy developing a soft spot for said kid is even cute!
Sweetheart the pediatrician. Kat, your idea on how that happens is just AWESOME. It ties in with the fact that Sweetheart doesn't really have any big talents in her life and no real direction in the show. But she does have those, she just hasn't found them like her friends. It's difficult for me to imagine her actually being a doctor like in the show, though she could definitely take it further, as she's the type to cling to dreams. I imagine that her family is actually fairly high-income, with their big house and such. Maybe her dad's a lawyer and her mom's got her shop, and she wants to have a well-paying job as well, but to help ponies Something to do with figuring ponies out is the right job for Sweetheart.
Teddy skateboarding is already pretty awesome. And yeah, those and the grunge idea you mentioned would be neat, Bob-dude. They'd fit very well into the time period. Wasn't rollerskating more popular then, though? I wasn't alive at all in the nineties, I don't know.
Sweetheart would definitely want to understand the Mane Six and how they, ahem, FEEL about their issues. She's such a friend she'd want to understand them, and if they didn't talk to her, she'd have them all figured out. We all seem to have an unspoken agreement that Sweetheart has a real gift with ponies.
Ted-canons with the law can wait for a bit, though, however fun those will be!
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Post by bobdude on Nov 21, 2014 11:17:22 GMT -5
Let me put it this way Notes, if you could slap the word extreme onto it, it was a sport in the 90s (expect for sumo wrestling, which is something I might have t o one day rectify). Tales being a late 80s/early 90s setting (JUST LIKE DRAGON BALL!), would be fun to play up the cultural elements of the times with a hearty knowing wink as it were. Like the VR episode that would no doubt have eventually come to pass had the show continued. Then again I also peg the Mane Seven as much more open about nonfriendship based relationships compared to the Mane Six. The Mane Seven would give Bulk Biceps a long stare of admiration (save for Patch). I'm still going with the idea of Cleaveland Bays being a stand in for the New Kids on the Block (minus the comic book stuff www.misterkitty.org/extras/stupidcovers/stupidcomics239.html)
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Post by Notes on Nov 21, 2014 21:21:45 GMT -5
Ahhh, alright, understood. I wasn't born at the time, but I have heard about it before. Thanks for the clarification. All kinds of wacky hijinks would ensue as the show went on, for sure.
I dunno about Bulk, though the girls definitely would notice ponies that way. I still think that they have relationships that are grounded by friendship.
Huh... it fits, I guess. I imagine them as a boy band, basically, and Chain Link is the dreamy guy who just happens to be the leader and potential-filled musician.
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Post by Kat on Nov 24, 2014 16:46:24 GMT -5
I have to disagree about the Bays being a NKOTB-type boy band. I always thought of them as being more like Bon Jovi or Poison - a "legit" rock band, but with a super good looking and charismatic lead singer who the girls all love. They're clearly a rock band on the show and play instruments. Not to mention his name - "Chain Link" is way more of a rock name than a boy band name.
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Post by Notes on Nov 24, 2014 18:53:10 GMT -5
Well, I was kind of going by his voice, which Patch nailed in Impractical Joker. He also seems like a young guy overall, maybe just a year older than Melody. But agree to disagree.
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